Monday, August 4, 2008

2011 Tribulation Begins

(Please excuse the sentence structure for I had a terrible time getting this to print. It was as if something did not want me to reveal this. I seemed to of lost my ability to communicate with this post.)
I am about to define through biblical means and deduction as to when the tribulation of the world as stated in the Hebrew and Christian books of God will begin. I have pieced together a group of factual and spiritual dates which converge toward a certain time when this will occur based on my reading and research into human end times prophecy.
First we need the list here to understand when this will occur.
1. The Fatima Prophecy to be specific the third revelation.
2. The list of papal procession as seen by Saint Malachy.
3. Daniel 9:2
4. Daniel 9:26
5. The date of the statehood of Israel.
Here is a question I had sent to a Hebrew biblical scholar concerning the wording in the Christian Bible in Daniel 9:26.
Question by Sparacio: I think i have found a great mistake. in the Christian translations of > Daniel 9:26 they refer to the anointed one as the messiah. i am confused > is it the messiah or an anointed person such as a president or pope of > some kind?
Answer by Scholar: The English word "messiah" is just a mangled version of the Hebrew word "mashiaH", which literally means anointed and figuratively one appointed to some task. In this case, it appears to be a reference to the Gentile King Cyrus, though the verse is frankly ambiguous.
Deduction by Sparacio:
First lets look at the Fatima Prophecy, see (http://goodnewspirit.com/fatima-prophecy.htm)
It states in brief as follows:
The "bishop clothed in white," who is the pope, "makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He, too, falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire."
Pope John Paul I feel had misinterpreted this vision and in his human egotistical mind had thought it to be him, this man in white.
I interpret it much differently. I see it not as a time which has happened but a time to come. I see the man in white as the church itself and the followers of him the entire world flock of Godly believers. I see it as the beginning days of the tribulation. In a world where paper currency is near worthless. When a loaf of bread is costing a days wages as stated in revelation: 6:6 and the currency of the time is silver and gold as stated many times through out the Holy scriptures. When men and women of the most steadfast spirits of good break apart and become like ravenous animals shooting and stealing from each other. This will happen when the financial systems of the world break, which we are in the mid stage of now.
Paragraph below is from a third party:
"This does not describe the shooting of John Paul II in 1981. The vision more likely points forward. To something far more momentous. To something that has not yet occurred. It seems to describe the linchpin of the tribulation -- the end of the 62 weeks in Daniel's vision -- the defining moment when the world passes from the millennium of Christian rule and reverts back to the reign of Satan. "And after the sixty-two weeks an anointed one will be cut off." (Dn. 9:26). The Fatima prophecy and it's revelation shows that this terrible event has now drawn very close."
My (Sparacio) interpretation:
"the end of the 62 weeks in Daniel's vision" 62 weeks equals 15 months which will be the time at which the tribulation begins or a few months before. The anointed one isn't the messiah as the Christians had interpreted in there bibles but a world leader of some sort. It could refer to a US president being assassinated 15 months into his term which would place it in the beginning-mid 2010 year. Or it could refer to Pope Ratzinger being assassinated in and around the same time or a bit sooner.
The key point here is Daniel 9:2 "in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the LORD to Jeremiah the prophet for the completion of the desolations of Jerusalem, namely, seventy years.
" when he refers to Jerusalem being desolated in 70 years this is what I see.
Take the date of Israel's independence of May 14th 1948 add 70 years to it equals 2018 and deduct the 7 years for the tribulation you will get 2011.
When looking at Daniel 9:26 it may refer to Mr. Obama who would be inaugerated in January of 2009, add 15 months to that time, we arrive at a date of around May 2010 which is about one year prior to 2011. You would have this buffer year as people, possibly the VP try to jockey for power and create alliances amongst themselves after such a tragedy.
Then we have Pope Ratzinger who may be the "cut down anointed one" because the prophecy of Saint Malachy, see (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes) -
It states that he is the second to the last pope and that the next pope Peter the Roman will preside over the tribulation time.
I feel that we are in the midst of this terrible period and that we need to prepare ourselves through the means of our belief in Jesus Christ as our savior and protector.
We can't ignore Psalm 22 which was written 1000 years prior. This is not a game nor are these prophets a bunch of insane men ranting and raving. Time is of the essence for all men and women, all religions Jewish, Christian, Buddha, Islam etc. to come together under one church of Christ and fight this evil which is about to prevail.

5 comments:

Patricia Burns said...

The End Time Application of Daniel 9:25-26

These Scriptures (Dan.9:25-26 below) have an end time application, as do all the time frames of Bible prophecy.

Daniel 9:25-26

The Sixth Trumpet, Second Woe, battle (Re.9:13 21) against Jerusalem and the residue of the people not cut off from the city (Zech.14:2), which culminates with the slaying of the two prophets (Re.11:8-12) at the last week prior to the Seventh Trumpet (1 Thess.4:16-17), the finish (Re.10:7), will destroy Jerusalem that a commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem will be ordered.

“The commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem” will be decreed seven WEEKS unto Messiah the Prince (the Prince of princes/Jesus), seven WEEKS, (49 days/1 month, 19 days) prior to the Seventh Trumpet (1 Thess.4:16-17), the finish (Re.10:7).

From “the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem”, it will take threescore and two WEEKS (62 weeks/1 year, 2 months, 14 days) to build the street and the wall (Jer.50:15). In other words, the commandment “to restore and to build” will occur BEFORE the Seventh Trumpet ascension, and the street and wall will be restored AFTER the ascension has taken place.


Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven WEEKS, and threescore and two WEEKS: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


Messiah the Prince (Dan.9:25, Dan.9:27) is Jesus Christ, the Prince of princes.

Messiah (Dan.9:26) is the false prophet.

The prince (Dan.9:26 below) is Satan (Jn.12:31, Jn.14:30, Eph.2:2 below).

After the threescore and two WEEKS (62 weeks/1 year, 2 months, 14 days), after the street and the wall are built again (Dan.9:25 above), Messiah (the false prophet - Dan.7:20, Dan.7:24, Dan.7:25, Dan.8:9, Dan.8:11, Dan.8:24-25, Dan.11:36, Dan.11:37-38, 2 Thess.2:4, Re.13:11-17, Re.17:8) will be cut off (Dan.9:26 below) by the kings who will destroy the city Babylon (Re.17:16-17 below).


Dan. 9:26 And after threescore and two WEEKS shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Re.17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the (scarlet coloured) beast, THESE SHALL HATE THE WHORE (Babylon - Re.17:1, Re.17:5), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire (Re.18:8, Jer.51:48).

Re.17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to FULFILL HIS WILL, and to agree, and give their kingdom (singular) unto the (scarlet coloured) beast, UNTIL THE WORDS OF GOD SHALL BE FULFILLED.

Re.17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city (Babylon), which reigneth over the kings of the earth (Re.17:2, Re.17:5).

Jn.12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out (Jn.14:30, Eph.2:2 below).

Jn.14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world (Jn.12:31 above) cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:



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Dreamslayer said...

Dear Patricia. The interpretation you are using is incorrect. You must seek out the original Hebrew for Daniel 9:26 from the Torah. I too when reading it thought as you did but when i investigated it I was amazed. I recall what is said in Revelation 22-18. Below is a response to my inquirey from a biblical old testament scholar.

"The English word "messiah" is just a mangled version of the Hebrew
word "mashiaH", which literally means annointed and figuratively one
appointed to some task. In this case, it appears to be a reference to
the Gentile King Cyrus, though the verse is frankly ambiguous."


shalom from Jerusalem, Israel,

Patricia Burns said...

I will stand on what I have been given until such time as the Holy Spirit convicts me otherwise.

Patricia

Timothy said...

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

You know that Christ Jesus shall return in 2018. Herein I pray that you will visit this site for more insights and inspiration unto the things to come; http:\\theelects.org

Grace be with you.


http://www.theelects.org/index.php/the-time-line

jow777 said...

Patricia, Since 2011 began there has been unexplainable events almost daily worldwide that scientists cannot explain.Dead Fish,Dead Birds and Dead Animals numbering in the millions in some cases. These events since around Jan 1st continue almost daily. Zephania 1 talks about these signs in the context of Christ's second coming.If a generation is indeed 70 years according to God's definition,then indeed 2011 could be the start of the tribulation. The revealing of the Anti-Christ will confirm it. There is definitely something happening in the spirit, since we entered 2011, that is now manifesting in the earth. JOW